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Sorcerer
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Will Daria be free? Reply with quote

hm.. well coudln't find any statement of you about that. Maybe I missed it somewhere, but still.. my question remains...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't have thought Khaile would have given them the Engine if they would use it commercially, considering his own ethos on Akarra being free. Then again..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, I was just thinking about posting this question the other day.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It better be or I'll be making some vacation plans to Virginia and Sweden. ;P
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[20:12] <thewreck> welll.. this is the deal
[20:12] <Ragath> So how much do we have to pay?
[20:13] *** Lorsaelos (~zeron@adsl-065-006-203-143.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined
[20:13] <Manifold> Go on.
[20:13] <thewreck> our ambition is to keep the game free. However a server and such isnt free, therefor we have been scetchin on some ways to fund this. (this not including taking money from players)
[20:13] * Manifold starts logging
[20:13] <Lorsaelos> I see I joined when the good conversation was getting started?
[20:14] <Manifold> thewreck
[20:14] <Manifold> That it?
[20:14] <Manifold> All you're saying?
[20:14] <thewreck> So, the game will probably stay free. however, there might pop up some thing around the game, such as a small google banner in the forums, and mayby a shop on the page where we sell stuff
[20:14] <thewreck> whatever
[20:15] <Manifold> That's alright..
[20:15] <thewreck> we will try lots of different ways to fund it before taking money from players, thats what i mean
[20:15] <Arallu> but what if players choose to donate? =]
[20:16] <Ragath> Now don't even think about donations via paypal
[20:16] <Lorsaelos> heh
[20:16] <thewreck> well, in the case of a shop, you could just buy cool merchendise, like DoD t-shirts and stuff like that, i guess taht would be donating enough
[20:17] <thewreck> not so sure i like the idea of just getting money right upfron
[20:17] <thewreck> t
[20:17] * Lorsaelos would donate if he wasn't a <redundant>poor college student</redundant>
[20:17] <thewreck> besides, i dont really like taking a charge from players, that sorta puts ALOT more demand on us to keep everything working perfectly
[20:18] <thewreck> as long as its free people cant complain
[20:18] <thewreck> and that kinda puts alot of stress off our backs
[20:18] <Ragath> Are you sure about that?
[20:18] * Manifold looks dim
[20:18] <Ragath> People can and will complain ;E
[20:18] * Dw- slaps Manifold around a bit with teinikännit™
[20:18] <Dw-> Don't ask
[20:19] <thewreck> sure, they can complain, but as long as its free, we dont have to react
[20:19] <Lorsaelos> thewreck, if you're thinking of CafePress, you must already know that if someone wanted to give you $10, and you have a $9 shirt on cafepress +$1 increase, you're only getting $1
[20:19] <thewreck> not saying we wont
[20:19] *** Murky (~murky@159-134-255-247.as1.nas.naas.eircom.net) joined
[20:19] <Ragath> You make it sound like everything's going to be fine. I don't believe your lies.
[20:20] <Manifold> I will pay £1 a month to play Daria.
[20:20] <Manifold> That's it.
[20:20] <Lorsaelos> whereas regular donation methods you would receive the full donation, minus handling fees and that such.
[20:20] <thewreck> then dont listen =P
[20:20] <Talonz> *looks at ragath and shots PACIFIST*
[20:20] <thewreck> how do you know how much you would pay to play it?
[20:20] <thewreck> you dont know what the game is like.
[20:20] <Talonz> Hm
[20:20] <Manifold> Because that's what I said I'd pay for Akarra.
[20:20] <Murky> I wouldn't mind paying.
[20:20] <Murky> Its just difficult not having a credit card.
[20:20] <Talonz> Wreck
[20:20] <Syringe`> Yup, I agree.
[20:21] <Talonz> How much would a sever cost to run it?
[20:21] <Arallu> I say, the dev team should go down on rich people to find us some funders
[20:21] <Manifold> There used to be a millionaire who played Akarra.
[20:21] <Manifold> He was called Scitar.
[20:21] * Manifold looks scathed
[20:22] <Talonz> Bah
[20:22] <Talonz> Luke offered to pay the akarrian devs
[20:22] <Manifold> Maybe..
[20:22] <Manifold> Eheh.
[20:22] <Talonz> They were all like "no no that's not possible"
[20:22] <Talonz> "We don't want j00 moneys nty"
[20:22] <Enquillion> DarkRaven was married to a rich guy
[20:22] <Enquillion> I can't believe someone like her would play Akarra ;P
[20:22] <thewreck> it all depends on how you solve the server problem
[20:23] <thewreck> if we purchase a server ourselves, that might be around 1000 $
[20:23] <Arallu> basiclly, it's the server that costs, isn't it?
[20:23] <Talonz> Well
[20:23] <Talonz> If one hundred people play daria
[20:23] <Arallu> or are there more costs?
[20:23] <Talonz> Say at different times of the day and stuff
[20:23] <Manifold> Then what about the bandwidth?
[20:23] <thewreck> yeah, thats another cost
[20:23] <Talonz> If each one pays a dollar a month, that's 100 bucks a month
[20:24] <Lorsaelos> Are we talking server-class CPUs and the like, or just a good strong solid desktop comp?
[20:24] <thewreck> well. its a hell of a step from free to 0.000001$
[20:24] <thewreck> invovles ALOT of hassle
[20:24] <Manifold> Yus.
[20:24] <Murky> What about some kind of donation system?
[20:24] <thewreck> anyway, i cant comment further on this now
[20:25] <Manifold> ...
[20:25] <Dw-> might want to reply on the forums tho
[20:25] <Manifold> :/
[20:25] <Manifold> Yes
[20:25] <Manifold> Good idea that
[20:25] <Lorsaelos> I built my comp on NewEgg.com, and including monitor all other stuff, it came to something around $1000
[20:25] <Manifold> I'll post the log there.

There's the log, look.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we do not want to charge the player.

if however, there is need for money, We will look long and hard for other means of getting it.

we will strive towards keeping it free. It would take alot for us to start asking money from the players.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are in just minor need of money you could try the google adclick stuff.

Here

I don't know how much it will help or what your monthly expense is, but it might help a bit. ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sign a sponsor deal with Coca Cola and re-name the game to "Dawn of Coca Cola", that would do it. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maestro wrote:
Just sign a sponsor deal with Coca Cola and re-name the game to "Dawn of Coca Cola", that would do it. Wink


I can see the agreement to download the client saying, "By clicking download you agree to make Coca-cola your official Cola soft drink and put a Pepsi Sucks sign, which is already being processed for mailing to your residence, in your front lawn for the duration of your time playing this game."
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well some ways of getting money so far as i currently know is:

- Donations
- Banners/ads
- Stuff T-shirts, caps, logo's etc.

If a game has a monthly fee you pay for:

- The admins
- Updating
- Developers
- To keep playing

Not everyone can pay a monthly fee.. and asking 1 $ is rather useless. Donations though, can be better. I know a group i'm in on a game wich has 3 servers. 2 run by a host and 1 run by their own 24/7. Don't have to pay anything to keep playing but the donations keep them running. The players who infact *work* pay to the account with donations to keep the servers up. They play a lot on the servers so they pay for that what they do a lot.
If Daria had a donation account i'm sure people will donate (as soon as its released) to keep it developing.
I think paypal provides this too.

So basicly not force the players to pay but give them the opportunity to do so, so they are rather satisfied.
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